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Subject: Re: [zee-list] Maathematics
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:22:51 EST
From: Marik[at]aol[dot]com
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In a message dated 12/21/00 9:51:09 PM, luxferro@nwlink.com writes:

<< the cat is neither dead nor alive = the cat is either dead or alive = the cat is either dead nor alive = the cat is neither dead or alive >>

I think that’s right.

There are 4 quantum states in superposition, decohering into two when you decide to open the box, then one when the box is opened.

C=cat, A = alive, D = dead

In quantum superposition

1) C is not A and not D
2) C is A or D
3) C is A not D
4) C is D not A

On deciding to open the box, decoheres to

3)C is A not D
4)C is D not A

on opening the box, further decoherence presents either 3) or 4).

Interestingly enough decoherence starts to occur at the moment a choice is made to open the box suggesting that the second link in the nexus of Dependent Origination (volition) precedes action/manifestation (the fourth link), reinforcing the Buddhist view that karma is produced at the same time as intention, rather than as a consequence of action. The nexus of Conditioned (Dependent) Origination is only graphed as 12 sequential steps. Properly all links mutually arise,

Quantum computing (estimated desktop deployment 2025) is based on there being four logic gates. Quantum computing was experimentally proved in the last few months with a very very small piece of copper wire.. I don’t understand how they got around Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle, but I’ll take their word for it.


DNA Magick

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Subject: Re: [zee-list] Re: DNA and the four elements?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:53:08 -0600 (CST)
From: Fenwick Rysen < fenwick[at]chaosmatrix[dot]com >
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lo eskis o

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 soror.mystica@att.net wrote:

<< I have been researching genetic manipulation and I am wondering whether anyone has any ideas as to how they would connect the four elements to the four nucleotides >>

Kick ass! Up until now, I thought I was the only mage with the chemical structure of DNA jotted down in his book of shadows!

I did a lot of work with DNA magick in a short period, and while I didn’t really attribute directly to elements, I did place Adenine and Thymine at opposite ends of the circle, and Guanine and Cytosine at opposite ends of the circle. I ignored directions and elements. I drew their chemical structure in their quarter (sidewalk chalk is a magicians best friend), and stood upon a drawing of Deoxyrybose, that sacred sugar that bonds the four together in the spiral of life.

Instead of drawing up a “cone” or power, I envisioned standing at the center of a double helix stretching to infinity above and below.

I separated my magick into two circles, DNA Magick which had Cytosine as one point, which was mostly information-gathering, introspective work. Then I’d continue a working by replacing the drawing of Cytosine with Uracil, and switch to RNA magick, where I took the information I’d gained, and manifested it into the real world, building up aethyric proteins, as it were. Fun stuff.

My own thoughts after playing with it were that DNA was truly primal, very atavistic magick. I’m not sure you *can* match them to the elements properly. Or at least I couldn’t. But this is chaos. Whatever works! I’d be interested to see whatever system you work our for it. DNA magick is really fun stuff.

Keep us informed!

In Life, Love, and Laughter

–Fenwick Rysen

Sigils, servitors and godforms: part II

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Spirits, image by TorleyServitors, psychodynamics and models of magick

Chaos magick, at least if approached by through the Internet and conversation with chaos magicians, can appear a sprawling, contradictory mess of techniques to the newcomer. The relativistic stance of chaos magick, and it’s apparent lack of a unifying template can appear both morally disturbing and intellectually frustrating, especially to occultists coming to it from more traditional paths. Continue reading

Sigils, servitors and godforms: Part I

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Astaroth sigill, photo by eleraamaSigils, servitors and god-forms are three magical techniques that chaos magicians use to actualize magical intentions. Sigils are magical spells developed and activated to achieve a specific, fairly well defined and often limited end. Servitors are entities created by a magician and charged with certain functions. Godforms are complex belief structures, often held by a number of people, with which a magician interacts in order to actualize fairly broad magical intentions. These three techniques are not quite as distinct as these definitions would suggest, they tend to blur into one another. The purpose of this essay is to explain these magical tools, indicate their appropriateness for different types of magical intentions, and show how these tools relate to the general theories of chaos magick and of Dzog Chen, a form of Tibetan Buddhism.

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